Living Lucky® Podcast with Jason and Jana Banana

Five Questions For The Journey of 1000 Miles

Jana and Jason Shelfer Season 11 Episode 17

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Driving toward a dream without clear coordinates doesn't make you an adventurer—it just guarantees you will run out of gas in the middle of nowhere.

Most high-performers live in a state of chronic, directionless motion. They constantly change jobs, swap routines, or jump into new projects, mistaking raw speed for real progress. But when you refuse to take an honest inventory of your current baseline, your efforts inevitably break down. You operate like a driver trying to use a GPS without giving it a starting location. You end up compounding stress, dragging leftover emotional baggage from previous failures into your new season, and slamming directly into the exact same performance ceiling over and over again.

In this high-octane episode of the Living Lucky® Podcast, recorded while hitting the highway for their regular cross-country drive to Kansas, Jana and Jason translate simple road trip logistics into a strategic framework for personal growth and life design. They break down the three non-negotiable coordinates required for any successful transformation: Where are you now? Where are you going? And how are you going to get there? From dissecting the heavy emotional cost of skipping your baseline inventory to demonstrating why unpacking old identity baggage is the prerequisite for scaling, they map out how to stop recalculating and start arriving.

Inside:

  • The Three Non-Negotiable GPS Coordinates: Why even elite creators must define their exact starting location before programming a high-value destination.
  • Unpacking Before Packing: How carrying the residue, hairspray, and clutter of old projects into your next venture guarantees premature burnout.
  • The 5-Question Category Audit: Jana’s masterclass breakdown—What do I want? Why do I want it? What must I do? What must I release? Who must I become?—applied across every area of life.
  • The Breadcrumb Principle: Why attempting to "machete through the jungle" alone is a costly mistake, and how to leverage proven templates without sacrificing your individual spice.
  • Sensory Destination Embodiment: How to program your mind with such vivid sensory detail that arriving at your biggest goal feels as familiar as pulling into your own driveway.

Stop burning your highest-value fuel driving in circles. If you are ready to stop winging the route, clear the trunk of your car, and program a precise roadmap for your next chapter, hit play now.

Listen to the audio, watch the video broadcast, subscribe, and program your coordinates today.

NUGGETS

  • Clarity beats uncalibrated effort. You cannot calculate a successful route or estimate your required fuel if you lie to yourself about your true starting point.
  • Unpack the car before launching the next trip. Transitioning into a new career, relationship, or project without processing past baggage ensures you land right back in old patterns.
  • Success leaves explicit breadcrumbs. You do not need to reinvent the wheel or chop through the jungle alone; following proven paths saves time, money, and capacity.
  • "I'm different" is a subtle limiting belief. Using your unique background as an excuse to ignore proven frameworks isolates you from high-level breakthroughs.
  • Embody the destination until it feels like home. Visualizing your target with rich sensory detail conditions your nervous system to recognize and capture the opportunity when it appears.
  • life gps framework for personal growth
  • goal setting and life design questions
  • unpacking emotional baggage before starting over
  • success leaves breadcrumbs mindset coaching
  • sensory visualization and goal embodiment
  • how to use a road trip metaphor for goal setting
  • five questions to clarify life direction lifebook
  • why do high performers skip baseline inventory
  • balancing unique identity with proven success templates
  • how to audit your life across multiple categories
  • life planning tools for couples and entrepreneurs

Questions

How does the "Life GPS" framework clarify personal goal setting? The "Life GPS" framework simplifies personal goal setting by requiring three precise inputs: 1. Current Location (an honest, accurate inventory of present resources, emotional states, and limitations), 2. Destination (a clearly defined, sensory-rich target outcome), and 3. Route Strategy(the actionable steps, timelines, and fuel requirements needed to bridge the gap). Skipping the current location renders calculating an accurate route mathematically impossible.

What are the five core questions for clarifying life design and direction? To clarify life design, evaluate any specific category (such as finances, fitness, or career) using five strategic questions:

  1. What do I want? (Defining the precise outcome)
  2. Why do I want it? (Anchoring the core motivation)
  3. What do I need to do to get it? (Establishing execution steps)
  4. What do I need to let go of? (Identifying habits or beliefs to release)
  5. Who do I need to become? (Evolving internal identity to sustain the result)

Why is "I'm different" considered a disempowering limiting belief in professional growth? "I'm different" acts as a limiting belief because it convinces an individual that their circumstances, industry, or challenges are uniquely complex. This narrative serves as an ego-protective excuse to avoid adopting proven frameworks, seeking mentorship, or taking calculated risks. While individual execution brings unique flavor, baseline human psychology and business mechanics remain fundamentally consistent across fields.

  • Traffic, Detours & Recharging: Estimating your fuel and runway requirements Analyzing the hidden benefits of a GPS system. Learn how setting proper parameters helps you plan refueling stops, navigate unexpected road blocks, and share your estimated arrival time with your inner circle.
  • Taking Honest Inventory: Facing the emotional cost of step one Why most ambitious creators skip evaluating where they are right now. Learn why hiding doubt, embarrassment, or debt in the trunk prevents you from building a reliable roadmap.
  • The 5-Question Life Design Audit: Unpacking the Lifebook framework Jana breaks down the five questions that transform vague wishes into an actionable strategy across finance, fitness, faith, and family.
  • Unpacking Before Packing: Clearing out the car after the last campaign Jason and Jana reflect on cleaning up their dance competition gear before starting their road trip. Discover why jumping into a new career without cleaning out past clutter ensures you hit the same ceiling.
  • Programming the Destination: Starting with the ending in mind How to build a vivid, sensory-rich mental image of your target. Learn why embodying the smell, feel, and environment of your goal conditions your subconscious to recognize arrival.
  • Success Leaves Breadcrumbs: Why you must stop reinventing the wheel Dismantling the urge to machete through the jungle alone. Learn how leveraging existing templates and proven pathways saves time, energy, and capital while protecting your unique individual spice.

If you want a clearer route with fewer wasted miles, do the uncomfortable work first:

  1. Unpack the car: Be brutally honest about where you stand right now.
  2. Clear the narrative: Rewrite old failure stories into usable data.
  3. Program the target: Define your destination with rich sensory detail.

Stop driving in circles. Calibrate your baseline, clear the trunk, and set your coordinates today.

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*Previously Recorded 

The GPS Metaphor For Life

Jana Shelfer

Planning a road trip, there's three points of reference that we give our GPS. Where are we? Where are we going? And how are we gonna get there? It's the same way in life. Let's talk about it. I'm Jana. I'm Jason. And we are Living Lucky®. You are too. We are going to Kansas today. Woohoo! Road tripping. If you've been following us for the last several years, you know that we go to Kansas at least three, four times a year.

Jason Shelfer

Love it. And I can't get out of the neighborhood without using the GPS.

Jana Shelfer

Right. And every time, even though we know the way back and forth, we've gone through different states, we know the way. We still put into our GPS, where are we? Where are we going? And then our GPS helps us navigate how to get there.

Jason Shelfer

It also gives us a pretty good idea of how long it's gonna take. I think that's one of the big things about in life. We would love someone to say, how long is it gonna take me to get here? Right.

Jana Shelfer

So it kind of gives us an idea of maybe when to start. How much runway do I need? Where I can get gas along the way, where the nearest hotels are, or for me, where the nearest coffee place is.

Jason Shelfer

Where do I need to recharge if I've got a Tesla?

Jana Shelfer

It also tells us where traffic is or where there's been an accident, where we need to take a detour. Maybe we need to recalculate, recalculate.

Jason Shelfer

Recalculating.

Jana Shelfer

And lastly, what I really have learned to love about my GPS is it allows me to share my journey with the people that I'm coming to visit so that they can start planning. Okay, Jana and Jason are gonna get there at this time. They're in Celina right now. That means they're an hour away. We can start getting the house ready. And it doesn't feel like it's such a shock or a surprise. Hey, we're here.

Jason Shelfer

Show up.

Jana Shelfer

Um, because we've had those moments where we're had those moments. Where it's been 11 o'clock at night, we're knocking on windows, like, hey, can you let us in?

Jason Shelfer

When you said that, because I didn't think about that for some reason. The other part of that is when we make the trips, we can also tell people which route we found to be the most pleasant. Oh because some people are looking for a faster route, some people are looking for a more scenic route, some people are looking for just an interesting route, and also it allows us to create diversity in the same journey by taking a slightly different path. So true.

Stop And Take Honest Inventory

Jana Shelfer

Okay, so in our own lives, let's apply this now to designing our own lives. Many times we don't even stop to take inventory of where we are. Where are we right now? Right. And and many times, I hate to say this because I am guilty of this, but many times, if you ask me where I am right now, I in my head, in my imagination, I'm already up here.

Jason Shelfer

Even though my reality may be a lot of times we live in a future future self-state of mind because we are moving very quickly through our journey. And we have been.

Jana Shelfer

Well, when we stop and take time. We do. We do. I know this past year we've really stopped to take time for the side. Yes, we have. Maybe learn to ski, learn to dance, maybe enjoy each other a little more.

Jason Shelfer

And to examine where is what does this proper look like? Yeah, and where what do we really want? Like what is where is the where is that destination and what does that look like in the grand scheme of things and get very detailed

Five Questions To Clarify Goals

Jason Shelfer

about it.

Jana Shelfer

Yes. I just I know that when I started um many years ago when we first got into self-development, right? I took this course called Life Book, and it was life-changing for me. It was life-changing because I went through every area of my life and I literally started asking the questions. Okay, in this area of my life, what do I want? Why do I want it? What do I need to do to get it? What do I need to let go of? And who do I need to become? Those five questions. Those five questions. And when you start dividing that into what do I want in my finances? What do I want in my family? What do I want in my friends? What do I want in my fitness? What do I want in my faith? I mean, those are all different questions. What do I want in my fun? Right. You know, it's all the all those Fs. Right. What the F? It's all those F's. What do I want? And what am I willing to do to get there?

Jason Shelfer

And where am I now? So I have a baseline to start from. Yes. And that's what I'm saying. Because if I don't know where I am now, it's like a genre where I'm going. How am I going to get anywhere? And how do I know what I'm looking for? And I think one of the other points is sometimes we need to just use that small rear view mirror to look back and build from the experience and change that story of the roads that we've traveled in the past to recognize that we're good drivers.

Jana Shelfer

And and the road has gotten us to exactly where we need to be at the right time, at the right place to meet the people that we are supposed to meet.

Jason Shelfer

So, because a lot of times we'll tell ourselves the story of my car's broken down, like my my body's broken down.

Jana Shelfer

Or why did I take that detour? That was a I've wasted all my gas.

Jason Shelfer

I've wasted all my energy. You know?

Jana Shelfer

I wasted all my years, my my youthful vivacious years.

Jason Shelfer

I I've I've run my warranty out, you know, like the next time something breaks, my life is over. You know? So we'll tell ourselves all these stories. Instead of telling ourselves I've got something reliable right now. I'm in a body right now that can take steps forward, regardless of how small they are, that will move me in the direction of wherever I want to go.

Jana Shelfer

Or maybe that path was full of a lot of potholes, but now I have the knowledge to let others know hey, that might not be the smartest path to do that.

Jason Shelfer

I need a gentle road. I need I need smooth driving. What where's the path that looks like a smooth road for me, and how can I navigate that?

Jana Shelfer

Everything we experience, we either grow, learn, evolve, or expand.

Jason Shelfer

Or we tell ourselves a story that holds us back. And we and we get to choose that

Unpack Baggage Before You Move

Jason Shelfer

story.

Jana Shelfer

Ah, that is so true. Okay, so Jason and I are headed to Kansas, and we did a podcast a few days ago about unpacking before you start packing.

Jason Shelfer

Because we just finished a dance competition where we packed the car full of dance costumes and props and everything else.

Jana Shelfer

Wigs, we had dance chairs, I mean makeup. I had everything. And even though we did our best to get the costumes clean, get them back in the closet and whatnot, there were still remnants of our dance competition in the car. There was still hairspray.

Jason Shelfer

And between the car and the sparkles and the garage door.

Jana Shelfer

Yes. And and my dance chair was in the garage, just kind of in the middle, still with the wheel that was on it. So we didn't clean it up completely. Thoroughly. Thoroughly. And so this morning, as we have been getting ready to get on the road, we have had to actually do some just a little more detailing. Unpeeling before we can start building again. And that is another lesson in life because many times we just want to continue to compound all of this without it's rushing the process. It's rushing the process. How many cleaning out the car?

Jason Shelfer

Do we jump from one thing to the next and then we find ourselves? So this I see this a lot of times in careers. So we will we will move from one career to the next and think things, okay. I just need to change my situation. Yes. Instead of unpacking some baggage and looking and changing me, and then I'll hit the same ceiling. I'll feel I'll I'll land it like Tony Robbins says, I'll land in the same pattern.

Jana Shelfer

Uh-huh.

Jason Shelfer

Um, it's it's incredible when we don't unpack the baggage and we say, I know where I want to go. Yes, but then I I've never examined exactly where I am because where I am includes the baggage that I have in the car.

Jana Shelfer

Okay. Now, here is a very important step in this whole process, is many people avoid the step of where I am now because it's full of emotions. It's full of, oh, you know what, maybe I failed in the past, maybe I haven't been living life out loud, maybe I haven't been living fully. Like there's so many, it's it's covered in doubt, fear, uncertainty, resentment, regrets, it's covered in maybe even embarrassment. Uh all of those lower ends.

Jason Shelfer

Depends on the story that you tell yourself about. Depends on the story. But the problem is, is that story creates the now.

Jana Shelfer

But if we don't, what I'm trying to say with us not unpacking the car, if we don't unpack the car and start fresh, then we just start compounding our baggage. Does that make sense?

Jason Shelfer

100% to me.

Jana Shelfer

So what we need to do is unpack and make sure that we're starting it. Where am I now? Fully. Fully. And almost brutally honest about it. Where am I? Where am I now?

Jason Shelfer

Yeah, because if part of unpacking that car is this story of disempowerment, then we need to work with someone to say what is the other truth in that story. And then we start and that's starting to pack the car again for your new trip.

Jana Shelfer

For the new trip. Which is just like programming your GPS. It's almost working with a life coach or someone who can see it from an outside perspective, like this is where I am.

Jason Shelfer

That's packing your new beliefs, that's packing your new identity, that's packing the new clothes you're gonna wear for wherever your new destination

Start With The Ending In Mind

Jason Shelfer

is.

Jana Shelfer

Then the next step is you program where are you going? Your destination.

Jason Shelfer

What does it look like? What does it smell like? Who are the people you're around? What are they saying? What are the words you're hearing?

Jana Shelfer

There's so many different ways we could take this, but what I want to really emphasize is start with the ending in mind. How many times have we heard that in everything? We have not only heard it many times, it is finally really absorbing because it it makes sense. If we just get in the car and say we're going on a road trip and we just start going willy-nilly.

Jason Shelfer

If you're just driving, so a lot of times you will A, you're gonna get tired of the journey because you're just driving to nowhere.

Jana Shelfer

You almost get burnt out or you start, which which has happened to us 100% specifically me, in even starting our business. I I just started, which is good to get moving and get uh well, you're burned on your resources.

Jason Shelfer

It's it's like if you just went driving, Willie, if you do the if you're driving to nowhere, you just end up running out of gas, putting miles on the car, putting wear and tear on the car, and you end up in nowhere in particular. BFE. Yeah, BFE.

Jana Shelfer

And there is beauty in that whole process because you do learn to be self-sufficient along the way. So again, that that's our last path that we have taken. However, we have decided this time it's better to start with an ending in mind. And when I say an ending, I'm talking about a clear destination. In your life, I'm talking about really visualizing what Jason said earlier. What does that look like? What does that feel like? Who is surrounding me? Almost like visualize where am I going in the stress?

Jason Shelfer

What is the taste that I taste here? Like all the all the senses.

Jana Shelfer

I think what I feel like that is really uh maybe the most important when you are manifesting or when you are communicating with the universe. How do you want to feel when you are at the end of this and then embody that feeling and that energy?

Jason Shelfer

Yeah. Well, one of the things is because you'll know. It's one of those things. If you are embodying this so much, it's like when you come home from a long trip, yes, and you get close to home, you start smelling and recognizing, like when you walk into your house, you're like, that's my home.

Jana Shelfer

Yeah. And that's how I'm feeling right now going to Kansas.

Jason Shelfer

That's how you feel when you are in life and you start and you've been so visual and so imaginative about this place that you want to be and end up in life or go to in life. You will arrive there, you will start arriving there and you'll start smelling and feeling, and and it will you won't start smelling, but you're you'll start smelling.

Jana Shelfer

Does that make sense?

Jason Shelfer

Yeah, you won't start stinking. You might if you're working too hard. But you it will start feeling so familiar to you that you now know I'm arriving at this place, and then you will start imagining the place just beyond that, that's the next most beautiful place in the world.

Follow Breadcrumbs And Proven Paths

Jana Shelfer

Now, the last thing that I want to address is that GPS helps give you the path. This has been the most important lesson for us because we aren't needing to reinvent the wheel.

Jason Shelfer

The paths have already listened to that advice. Don't you don't have to recreate the wheel. Success leaves breadcrumbs.

Jana Shelfer

People have already been down the path that you're going. No matter where you're going, there's been someone somewhere in some time that's done some get around something very, very similar. And so there are templates, there are roadways. There, we don't have to take our machete and literally start chopping through the jungle. Chopping through the jungle. Now, that that is an option and it is fun, and we've done that as well.

Jason Shelfer

It doesn't mean don't be unique, don't be your own template, but it means that you can actually just follow someone else's success pattern and still get to where you're going with the guidance and help of people that have already been down the same similar path. Yes. So that you're not creating everything from scratch because so much has already been laid. The the concrete is out there.

Jana Shelfer

That has been a huge mistake that you and I have made. And it's cost us a lot of resources. It has cost us a lot of money. And I think mostly that came maybe from me. No, it came in that I was like, I'm unique. I'm different. This is both of us. Yeah.

Jason Shelfer

Because we go to a conference, it's and I talk about this in my book, that my my thought pattern from when I was a kid was I hear you in the conference. I hear, I hear you, coach, I hear you, speaker. My situation is different from everyone in the room. All 3,000 people here. And it's funny because so many people are having these breakthroughs, so many people are having these massive successes. And I'll buy the program. I'll I'll do all I'll spend thousands of people.

Jana Shelfer

You not only buy the program, you like play full out.

Jason Shelfer

You buy all of the equipment. And but I will what I will do is I will adapt it to my unique situation because I'm quote unquote different, which is one of the primary limiting beliefs.

Jana Shelfer

It's a limiting belief and an empowering belief depending on how you look at it.

Jason Shelfer

We are all different, but we are all more same than we are different. And if you look for the similarities, then your differences are automatically going to present themselves as uniquenesses that give you an that give you the opportunity for being the incredible spice of life that you offer the world. There's so much here, and that's a differentiator.

Adventure, Luxury, And Shared Vision

Jana Shelfer

I I feel like we have packed so much into this one podcast. But again, we are on our way to Kansas and we we approach life just like a road trip. And we've been doing that now for a while. I think when we first started this, you the one thing you wrote on your vision board is you wanted adventure.

Jason Shelfer

Yes.

Jana Shelfer

And so I said, well, let's start treating our dreams and our goals like an adventure.

Jason Shelfer

First thing we did was buy a camper and drive it around and put people's dreams on the outside of that camper and then move those dreams forward across America.

Jana Shelfer

And then my soul quickly said, I don't mind being on an adventure. I just don't want to be at a campsite.

Jason Shelfer

I want to be at the Four Seasons.

Jana Shelfer

At a five-star hotel. That's right. That's where I would like to be.

Jason Shelfer

This podcast brought to you by the Four Seasons. Not yet, but I hope you're listening out there.

Jana Shelfer

So there has been a little tug and pull between the two of us and realizing not only what I want, what you want, but what we want together.

Jason Shelfer

What does that look like? Connecting those taste like those dots. It tastes like luxury.

Jana Shelfer

Okay. So before we open the door to five more topics, I just want to say thank you for joining us. Treat your life like an adventure. Set the GPS system because that GPS can not only show you the way, it can give you options, it can help share the journey with your friends and family, and it can tell you where the coffee is along the way.

Jason Shelfer

That's right. Keep Living Lucky®.

Jana Shelfer

Bye bye.