Living Lucky® Podcast with Jason and Jana Banana
The Living Lucky® Podcast with Jason and Jana Banana - Stop Leaving Your Life to Chance. Start Living Lucky®.
Are you ready to stop settling and start succeeding? Welcome to the Living Lucky® Podcast, the definitive masterclass in high-performance mindset, radical resilience, and the art of intentional abundance. Hosted by Jason Shelfer - elite Mindvalley Core Coach - and Jana Shelfer - 3x Paralympian and World Champion - this isn't just a personal development show. The Living Lucky® Podcast is your weekly roadmap to becoming a champion in your own life.
In a world full of "toxic positivity," we provide the Living Lucky® Methodology: a proven framework for navigating change, overcoming adversity, and architecting a life that feels as good on the inside as it looks on the outside. We don't just talk about potential; we give you the tools to unleash it. We're living it and we're inviting you in to see it for yourself.
Every episode delivers actionable insights on:
- Performance & Mindset: Master your internal dialogue with an elite coach's perspective.
- Resilience: Learn from a World Champion’s "No-Excuses" approach to life’s hurdles.
- Positive Psychology: Science-backed strategies to shift from "Why me?" to "What’s next?"
- Lifestyle Design: Practical advice on wellness, entrepreneurship, and building a vibrant community.
Meet Your Hosts
Jason Shelfer is a world-renowned performance coach, one of only seven Core Coaches for Mindvalley, and a relationship coach for his top clients. He specializes in helping high-achievers break through plateaus and lead with purpose.
Jana Shelfer is a 3x Paralympian, World Champion Adaptive Water Skier, mindset expert, and creative genius. Her life is a testament to the power of the human spirit and the Living Lucky® philosophy.
Together, they are the founders of the Living Lucky® movement and co-authors of a lifestyle that proves luck isn't something you find, it's something you create.
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Living Lucky® Podcast with Jason and Jana Banana
The Horizon Trap: Why Your Forward Focus Feels Like Constant Failure
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You can work your tail off every single day, achieve massive incremental success, and still feel completely stuck.
High-achievers suffer from a quiet, highly sophisticated cognitive distortion: they live with their eyes permanently locked on the horizon. When you only look at the road ahead, your brain filters reality to highlight what isn’t done, completely blinding you to the massive empire you’ve already built. If you never pause to audit the distance behind you, the road ahead looks endless—and your mind concludes nothing is working.
In this high-octane episode of the Living Lucky® Podcast, Jason and Jana use an internal brand and website refresh as a mirror for personal development. They break down why your memory is a notoriously unreliable asset once you start performing better, and provide the exact framework required to establish structural baselines across your health, finances, and career so you stop spinning your wheels.
What you’ll discover when you hit play:
- The GPS Paradox: Why programming your future coordinates is completely useless if you refuse to document your current starting location.
- The 1-to-5 Baseline Hack: A simple, data-driven tracking tool to capture your baseline energy and mindset before your brain deletes the memory of what you overcame.
- The "Tall Donna" Realization: Confronting the reality of short-term mentors who altered your trajectory, and the high emotional tax of forgetting to say thank you.
- The Camper Purge: A raw business lesson from Jason and Jana’s "dream camper"—covered in 4,000+ handwritten names—and the systemic failure of not capturing user data.
- Destroying the "Alone" Script: How chronic busyness manufactures a toxic internal story of isolation, and how a 60-second thank-you text completely destroys resentment.
Stop treating your transformation like a solo sprint. If you are ready to stop spinning your wheels, claim your evidence-based growth, and activate an upward success cycle, hit play now.
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NUGGETS
- Progress becomes completely invisible when you refuse to look back. Incremental changes are too slow for the naked eye; you must deliberately measure the hill to realize you are no longer at the bottom.
- When you start feeling better, you instantly forget how bad it used to be. Setting an objective baseline reduces reliance on memory, preserving the exact evidence needed to fuel your confidence.
- The busier you get, the easier it is to lie to yourself that you are alone. Burnout and resentment are fueled by the false narrative of self-reliance. True growth requires auditing your helpers.
- A failure to track relationships is a direct drain on future scale. Collecting inspiration without keeping data means you are constantly purging your most valuable community assets.
- Gratitude is a strategic performance optimizer, not a sentimental luxury. Actively honoring the people who walked a mile with you rewires your brain filter to detect present support.
Questions:
Why is establishing a baseline critical for personal development and goal setting? Establishing a baseline is critical because the human brain quickly habituates to improved circumstances, erasing the memory of past limitations. Without a documented starting point, individuals cannot objectively measure their incremental growth, which starves the subconscious of the evidence-based data required to build authentic self-confidence.
How does forward-focus maximize anxiety and create a negativity loop? Exclusive forward-focus creates a negativity loop by forcing the brain to evaluate self-worth solely against unachieved future milestones. Because the horizon constantly moves as an individual scales, an exclusive forward gaze highlights only the unfinished work, inducing a chronic state of perceived stagnation and anxiety.
What is the "alone story" in productivity and how can you break it? The "alone story" is a cognitive distortion common among high-achievers where increasing responsibilities mask the presence of past and present support networks, leading to isolation and resentment. This pattern can be broken through a deliberate timeline audit to identify mentors, followed by taking immediate action to send targeted messages of appreciation.
- The Brand Mirror: Why refreshing your website exposes your psychological architecture We started cleaning out old media files and discovered an outdated brand identity. Learn why auditing your history is the ultimate diagnostic for future scale.
- The Hourglass Illusion: Why you work your tail off and still feel completely stagnant Sands accumulate incrementally beneath your conscious radar. Discover the exact mechanics of why your brain hides slow-motion wins from your awareness.
- The Cell Tracker Matrix: Setting a hard baseline before your memory betrays you Jana implements a scale 1-to-5 health matrix suggested by a trusted peer. Learn why your mind completely deletes the data of your past suffering the second you start feeling optimized.
- The GPS Fallacy: Why your vision board is failing without hard coordinate data A navigation system cannot chart an offensive path if it has zero tracking on your present coordinates. Discover why coaches see massive transformations that clients take complete credit for.
- Tall Donna & Dream Logic: The dangerous trend of forgetting the mentors who carried you Jana uncovers a repressed image of a 7-foot-tall temporary coach who pulled her through a dark season. Learn the massive emotional cost of failing to reach back.
- The 4,000-Sticker Autopsy: The catastrophic business mistake of the Dream Camper Driving across the nation accumulating thousands of first-name signatures on a vehicle without ever capturing a single email address. Learn a critical marketing lesson on tracking human capital.
- The Purge Loophole: Why cleaning your digital inbox is erasing your institutional story You delete past text streams and conversations to clear spatial capacity, unknowingly vaporizing the historical record of your momentum. Learn a better approach to data preservation.
- The Alone Annihilation: A 60-second text protocol to immediately crush resentment When hyper-busyness tells you that you are a solo warrior fighting the world, it is executing a lie. Access the exact challenge to identify your local network assets and restore structural connection.
- how to track personal progress baseline
- overcoming high achiever burnout mindset
- evidence based confidence coaching techniques
- tracking metrics for personal development
- benefits of a baseline evaluation coach
- how to stop feeling stuck when successful
- why do i feel like i'm not making progress
- how to create a simple personal health tracker
- the psychological danger of forward focus only
- overcoming the illusion of doing everything alone
- why high performers forget where they started
- strategic networking lessons for small businesses
- how to build an upward success cycle through gratitude
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The 4 pillars of Living Lucky
Believe in yourself
Believe in the people around you
Believe in your circumstances and
Believe that God is working through you, for you, and always conspiring in your favor.
*Previously Recorded
Welcome And The Core Challenge
Jana ShelferAre you ready to create a life you crave? Let's spin that doom loop of negativity into an upward success cycle and start Living Lucky®. Good morning! I'm Jana. I'm Jason. And we are Living Lucky®.
Brand Refresh Sparks A Look Back
Jana ShelferJason and I have been, I don't want to say rebranding, but we've been refreshing our brands. Yes. We have been refreshing the podcast room. We have been refreshing our website. We've been refreshing our photographs.
Jason ShelferWhich has involved a lot of looking back over time.
Jana ShelferYay.
Jason ShelferBecause we're looking at a website that is outdated. So you say, well, well, where did all that come from? How did it start? And where have we gone since then?
Jana ShelferAnd many times, if you've been listening to us, you know one of our tips is look how far you've come.
Jason ShelferOh, so big.
Jana ShelferLook back and look how far you've come. You and celebrate how far you've come. Because sometimes when we continuously look forward, it just looks like the road is just keeps going.
Jason ShelferIt just keeps going and we keep growing it in front of us.
Jana ShelferAnd I know that almost every motivational speaker says, keep your eyes on the front windshield. Don't look in the back windshield. However, Jason and I, we believe that it is important to look back every now and then and see how far we've come.
Why Progress Feels Invisible
Jana ShelferBecause when you're going up even a very, very small hill, if you look back, you can see how how much of the hill you've got.
Jason ShelferHow much progress you've made. You've actually made. Because sometimes it feels like you're just spinning your wheels. Spinning your wheels. Yeah. And it's it gets tiring. I mean, it's you're you're excited. You're you have you know you have momentum, you know that you are building something, but sometimes it's all the parts.
Jana ShelferYou know that you're working your tail off every single day, and you just don't notice the changes because they're slow.
Jason ShelferRight. That incremental progress. You don't notice the sands in the hourglass until they they start piling up.
Jana ShelferYes. So today we are going to challenge all of you to look back at how far you've come. Now, this could be in your financial goals, this could be in your relationship goals, this could be in your health goals, this could be in your career or your spiritual goals. This could be in any facet of your life. Look back and just notice how far you've come.
Jason ShelferYeah, and I think one of the big things is notice the good. Notice the growth. Because oftentimes we like at the end of the year, we will, or in the even at the end of the day, we will notice what didn't get done. We will notice how much road is still in front of us.
Jana ShelferOh, that's so funny.
Jason ShelferSo looking back, we will still notice what's left in front of us.
Baselines That Prove You’re Growing
Jana ShelferSo my friend, Mike Beverly, he was telling me about this cell cellular growth thing that he takes. And he was like, Janna, you're gonna love this. You're gonna love this. It has helped me so much. So because I respect Mike, I was like, okay, you know what? I'll buy a bottle and I'll try it. In the bottle was a health tracker, and it literally said, Because we often forget how we feel, when we start feeling better, we often forget where we were at. Right. Isn't that interesting? It's so true. I filled out this form, just it was like on a scale of one to five, what's your energy level? On a scale of one to five, how young do you feel on a scale of one to five? All these little questions, okay? Then every week you answer the same questions, and it is amazing. I've only been taking it now for two weeks, but I look back and go, oh my gosh. No, it's it's so two weeks ago, my energy level was out of three.
Jason ShelferIt's so funny that you mentioned that because when I first started coaching, yes, I I didn't do any baseline. Which is that that's what that is, is a baseline. It's saying, okay, where are we, where are we starting?
Jana ShelferIt's like the GPS. When you program a GPS, you know, we all want to program where we're going, but the GPS needs to know, well, where are you now?
Jason ShelferYeah. And as a coach, I would do, I would, I would set the baseline or I would understand the baseline because I'm asking all the questions, right? Yes. And but I wouldn't have my clients say, like, write down the baseline. Yes. So three months later, six months later, we would be at this whole new place. And I could see it, they could feel it, but they couldn't remember the baseline. And so it was a whole new experience of life. Oh my god. It's a whole new energy. And all they remember at that point is life is amazing. I'm out of here. I'm gone. Like I'm on, I'm on fire.
Jana ShelferI figured it out.
unknownThat's right.
Jana ShelferWho cares where I was? This is where I am now.
Jason ShelferAnd a lot of times it's, and so it's a it's like I don't, I don't even recognize sometimes that it was the coach or it was the working with the coach. Not the coach, but the working with the coach that helped me unlock some things for myself.
Jana ShelferAnd you know, I have that. I mean, I I have it too. We all have
Remembering The Coaches Who Helped
Jana Shelferit. I look back and I look at how people have helped me. In fact, oh, I had a dream. I had a dream list. Oh, you and Martin Luther. And me and my damn dreams. That's all right. You're on it. I'm sorry to put this on you.
Jason ShelferYou're on a dream coaster right now. I feel like I'm living a freaking dream.
Jana ShelferI had a dream about Donna. Do you remember Donna? She coached me very briefly. Donna was tall, Donna. Tall Donna. Like she literally was seven feet tall. And we in fact, I have a picture of her standing beside me, and I'm sitting, and I'm like, oh my god, this is almost comical.
Jason ShelferYeah. Ripley's believe it or not.
Jana ShelferShe coached me. I just took one of her little workshops, and then she coached me for like six weeks after the workshop just to kind of help me through something I was going through at that time. And she helped me so much. Uh, so many things of what she told me and taught me at that time, I utilize now and I share it with people that I'm speaking with. And I I here's the thing though, is I don't know if I've ever reached back and said, you helped me.
Jason ShelferRight. And so often we won't reach back and tell someone, hey, I just want to thank you for the influence you've had in my life. Yes. I want to I want to help you for the mile you are with me. Yes. You know, on on the road that I'm traveling in life, I want to thank you for the mile you walked beside me, or the mile, the mile you changed, or the miles you've changed. Yes. And I think that's big. And and I I think since we're redoing our website, I would love for anyone that's a part of the Living Lucky ecosystem, the that's had any involvement with Living
The Dream Camper And Lost Contacts
Jason ShelferLucky.
Jana ShelferI mean, even if even if you are one that just listened to our morning coffees when we were doing the live morning coffees.
Jason ShelferIf you put a dream on the camper back when we were driving around the country. Or maybe you're at the 4,000 plus dreams on that camper.
Jana ShelferAnd oh my gosh, you know.
Jason ShelferThat's crazy.
Jana ShelferThere is a part, there is a little voice in me that's like, why didn't my business side kick in a little more back then? Right. Why didn't I capture these people and their full names so that I can now reach back and say, Did your dream come true?
Jason ShelferI know. And instead of just relying on the people to contact us.
Jana ShelferYes. I'm like, you know what? They'll find us. They'll find us.
Jason ShelferWe we we paid for all the stickers. We paid for all the gas. Well, it doesn't. We went to them.
Jana ShelferHey.
Jason ShelferBut here, all our we could have just asked for a dream and an email address.
Jana ShelferI know, right?
Jason ShelferLike, you know, that's something that we could have done. And then if we got the dream, we got the dream. If we got the email address, we got the email address.
Jana ShelferOr even their last names.
Jason ShelferRight?
Jana ShelferWe just had them, we just had them put their first names. We're like, hey, yeah. So we've got Cindy and Betty, Deb Debbie.
Jason ShelferOh, all girls.
Jana ShelferWell, and John.
Jason ShelferBob. What about Bob? So there's all that. But one thing I loved about the camper was you could see the progress. Yes. It started off with one sticker, then went to 4,000 plus.
Jana ShelferNo, occasionally someone would reach back out to us. Right.
Jason ShelferWe have, I mean, uh dozens, hundreds of people would call us and say, but they but we didn't keep track of it.
Jana ShelferBut we didn't keep track of it. Well, where are they at now?
Jason ShelferAnd we didn't keep their their numbers.
Jana ShelferI know, or their messages.
Jason ShelferThat's a problem.
Jana ShelferWell, because why don't we think I tried keeping their messages, but I would keep them in either messenger or my email, and eventually I would either get a new computer. Purge. Yeah, I would purge. I'm like, oh my god, I've got 2,000 messages. I need to get rid of some of these. Yeah, and it's only because I would get a message saying, you need to clean up your inbox.
Jason ShelferYou need space.
Jana ShelferI'm like, I can't, I don't have time to go through one at a time.
Jason ShelferWe needed a life manager back then. We still do.
Jana ShelferWe need an assistant.
Jason ShelferWho else needs a life manager?
Jana ShelferOh my gosh.
Asking For Living Lucky Stories
Jason ShelferBut as I think as we are rebuilding the website, I would love to have Living Lucky® stories. How how are you Living Lucky® because of some way we crossed your path or we went some mile with you?
Jana ShelferYes.
Jason ShelferI mean, I think it's apropos to the the way we travel around the country, travel out around the world, and also the way we kind of walk with people or roll with people through life.
Jana ShelferOh my gosh. This is so big. Okay, so look back, how far have you come? And then pat yourself on the back. Not only pat yourself on the back, let's let's honor those that have helped us get to where we are. Maybe just a quick little text. Hey, I just want to say thank you. Thank you. Because you helped me at a time when I needed someone to guide me, show me the way, or even just give me an encouraging word, support.
Gratitude That Ends The “Alone” Story
Jason ShelferYeah, and I and this goes back to the gratitude because a lot of times what happens is when the busier we get or the further we get, we start thinking or we start telling ourselves, I'm doing this alone. And when we look back and realize that there were people alongside of us, we did have some levels of support in some areas.
Jana ShelferWe've had tons. We've had tons. Maybe it wasn't in the way that I'm like, I want a billion downloads. Right. You know, like that will show me that we are making it. But it along the way, yeah, we had people showing up for us constantly. Sheila and sharing sharing with Marilyn. I mean, those two in particular have been there every step of the way.
Jason ShelferYeah. And so when we when you start being grateful for the support you had, you will realize that even in those times you're telling yourself or asking yourself, where's my support? Yes, then you'll be able to see where it is, and then you won't be so quote unquote alone in whatever you're going through currently in that new stage.
Final Takeaways And Goodbye
Jana ShelferSo this isn't about though noticing support, it's also about noticing how far you've come. Amen. Thanks for joining us.
Jason ShelferKeep living luck.
Jana ShelferBye-bye. If the idea of Living Lucky® appeals to you, visit us at LivingLucky.com.