Packing & Unpacking Chaos

Feeling Overwhelmed by Holiday Chaos? Pack Light & Live Lucky® This Season!

Dreading the holiday packing frenzy? You're not alone! Join Jana and Jason on a hilarious and insightful journey as they tackle the physical and emotional clutter that comes with the season. This episode of the Living Lucky® Podcast is your guide to ditching the stress and embracing a lighter, more fulfilling holiday experience.

Here's what you'll discover:

• The "Mental Real Estate" Hack: Learn how to identify and declutter your mind, just like you would your car. Stop letting "what-ifs" steal your peace and focus on what truly matters.
• Tame Your Holiday Anxiety: Feeling overwhelmed by changes in routine and expectations? Jana and Jason share personal stories and practical tips for managing holiday anxiety and turning it into a force for growth.
• Pack Smart, Live Green: Should you buy a new coffee pot or lug yours across the country? This episode explores the environmental impact of holiday choices and inspires mindful packing for a more sustainable you.
• Embrace the Adventure: Packing mishaps and last-minute changes are inevitable! Learn to laugh it off, adapt with creativity, and trust your ability to handle whatever the journey throws your way.
• Living Lucky® Starts Now: The holidays are a time for joy, not stress. Jana and Jason's honest conversation offers actionable strategies for taking control of your mental and emotional well-being, so you can truly enjoy this special time.

Ready to ditch the baggage and embrace a holiday season filled with peace, joy, and personal growth? Tune in and let's get Living Lucky® together!

P.S. This episode is packed with actionable tips and relatable stories that will resonate with anyone feeling overwhelmed by the holidays. Share it with your friends and family who could use a dose of Living Lucky® magic!

• What Are You Packing?
• The Clutter in Our Lives—And How to Unpack It
• Practical Tips for Living Intentionally

Keywords: Holiday Packing, Holiday Stress, Anxiety Management, Mental Declutter, Sustainable Living, Living Lucky®, Personal Growth, How to reduce overwhelm during the holidays, Tips for decluttering emotional baggage, Living with intention and purpose, Transforming chaos into clarity

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Transcript

Jana Shelfer: 0:00

Are you ready to create a life you crave? Let's spin that doom loop of negativity into an upward success cycle and start Living Lucky®. Good morning, I'm Jana, I'm Jason and we are Living Lucky®.

Jana Shelfer: 0:19

You are, too, as you know, we are packing for our holiday vacation. We're moving. No, just packing for vacation. Vacation is a temporary thing.

Jason Shelfer: 0:32

Oh, so I don't have to pack everything.

Jana Shelfer: 0:34

However, where do you draw the line? Where do you draw?

Jana Shelfer: 0:38

the line I might need my mountain bike.

Jana Shelfer: 0:39

There's a lot of what-ifs there. I mean, I started to pack the coffee pot this morning. I might need my. Because I'm like we're not going to have a coffee pot and I know that in our small town that we're going to be visiting, there's not anywhere to buy coffee.

Jason Shelfer: 0:54

Except for the grocery store.

Jana Shelfer: 0:56

So-. And I can't be going there at four o'clock in the morning and you need a coffee pot in order to make the coffee that you buy at the grocery store All right so let's make sure we pack that coffee pot. So where do you draw the line of what you need, the what ifs? Well, what if I need this? What if I need that?

Jason Shelfer: 1:18

And I think the other part of that is we could go to the Walmart that's close to town and get a coffee pot there. That's like 20 bucks.

Jana Shelfer: 1:22

Yeah, but that feels like.

Jason Shelfer: 1:24

I'm A waste?

Jana Shelfer: 1:24

Yes like 20 bucks. So yeah, but that feels like I'm a waste. Yes, it feels like I'm contributing to the throwaway society that just causes a climate problem so I think what it is of trash.

Jason Shelfer: 1:32

If you look at the volume or the capacity of the car, put everything into, into dollar amounts and volume, like that does it come down to dollar amounts, because I'm not sure that's the perfect way to live. So would you pay an extra $20 to have another cubic foot of space in the car?

Jana Shelfer: 1:52

Okay, so what we're really talking about is mental real estate, clutter real estate, that's big Mental real estate clutter.

Jason Shelfer: 2:00

Like physical real estate in the house. Like spatial what's available Real estate, emotional real estate, what we like. Physical real estate in the house.

Jana Shelfer: 2:04

Like spatial what's available Real estate emotional real estate, what we're used to comfort. Wise, because I know like my heating blanket. Okay, yeah, I could buy a heating blanket on the road. I may not even need a heating blanket, you will. However, emotionally, that will help me so much so that's worth the space.

Jason Shelfer: 2:24

I mean that occupies a lot of space in a carry-on bag when we fly somewhere.

Jana Shelfer: 2:28

I might even take two, in case one breaks Right.

Jason Shelfer: 2:35

Yeah, and so we got this 10,000 mile trip. It's a round trip. It'll be about 10,000 miles. We're going to drive it.

Jana Shelfer: 2:42

This has been a logistical nightmare. I'm just going to be honest with you to the point where we actually have listeners that have been emailing me and texting me saying the reason that your bones hurt, the reason that you've been sick for the past couple of weeks, the reason that you are not feeling well, is because it's holiday time, and every year. If you have followed us for even two years, you realize this is a pattern in my life.

Jason Shelfer: 3:09

There's some emotional baggage there. Well, and then also you're going through some things that are changing what you're doing activity wise, medicine wise, all that.

Jana Shelfer: 3:21

So what do I pack? Do I pack all of that stuff?

Jason Shelfer: 3:24

Yeah, so that's something that we've started and that's a priority for me, because I know that your goal is to have an optimal life, feeling the best you can, living to your highest version of yourself, and that's part of the pathway to that. So that's taking up space in the car. I'm going to just say that yes.

Jana Shelfer: 3:43

Okay. So let's back up a little bit. What we're really talking about is so I've been filling up with anxiety. That's what I've been occupying my space, if you want to say, or capacity, because I feel overwhelmed. It feels too big, and this is where I need to learn to manage. Okay. Okay, I can handle challenges along the way.

Jason Shelfer: 4:11

Amen to that.

Jana Shelfer: 4:12

So I need to. Less is more. Is that what we're? I don't know what we're saying. I don't know what the fuck this podcast is about.

Jason Shelfer: 4:19

So I think less is more. So one of the things is, when I think about a road trip, I think just like starting a business adventure doing anything. A lot of times we over prepare and we pack for the what-ifs and we will spend our lifetime packing the car and we never get on the road.

Jana Shelfer: 4:35

So if we constantly prepare for the what-ifs, then we never do the what-is.

Jason Shelfer: 4:40

Yeah, and we don't get into the experience. And experience is where we grow and we can actually say, because there's so many times that we've gotten back from a trip and there's crap that I packed that I literally never took out of the suitcase.

Jana Shelfer: 4:55

Yes, we've all had that before.

Jason Shelfer: 4:56

That frustrates me to no end, on the backside of the trip, I'm like why did I even take this? I never used it.

Jana Shelfer: 5:05

Because we just cause more problems for ourselves in unloading and loading.

Jason Shelfer: 5:11

Packing it back up. Where does it?

Jana Shelfer: 5:13

you can never find what you need.

Jason Shelfer: 5:15

It's yeah, it's taking space, it's it's creating clutter, space and the things that I do use on always like. So it's looking at saying, okay, what are the priorities that get me on the road, what is it that I that I have to have in the car and what isn't going to break the bank if I need to buy it?

Jana Shelfer: 5:31

Okay, but I'm just going to be real with you. So I like to dress cute, you do dress cute, and I like to have the accessories and the makeup. And so where do I draw that line in? Okay, I know that I'm only going to be gone for a certain amount of days. I know that I probably will have access to a washing machine and dryer. Why don't I just take three outfits? Because I will have the same outfits on in every picture. I will be freezing cold and I will think, oh my God, I don't look the way I want to show up in the world. So then that is affecting my emotional real estate.

Jason Shelfer: 6:12

So we so pack for the clothing changes. I mean, if you have a shirt and pants, that's two different outfits, so it can be, or I guess maybe it's not two different outfits. I'm thinking you can put the pants on your top and the top on the bottom, but you can't do that.

Jana Shelfer: 6:29

Jason just became Tim Gunn. He's like make it work.

Jason Shelfer: 6:35

That's so funny. So clothing's our priority. Maybe we cut back on the number of art books.

Jana Shelfer: 6:42

But if I'm going to be gone for six weeks, I have to have something to fulfill my time, especially if I need Jana time.

Jason Shelfer: 6:51

Yeah, and Jana time is super important.

Jana Shelfer: 6:54

And also here's the thing Like I have a lot of art projects that I have come to a stop stick and I don't know how to finish them, or I don't have the the sewing machines to finish them and my mom, my mom does. She has those skills and those talents. And my mom does, she has those skills and those talents. However, I need to take the bins of fabric Good thing you all so that I can show her what I need done.

Jason Shelfer: 7:25

Oh, I love it I love it.

Jana Shelfer: 7:26

No, literally, I'm thinking about taking an extra car so that I can take my art things that I would like to do with my mom, because I'm like this is the time I'm going to have at least four, maybe five weeks.

Jason Shelfer: 7:37

Could you imagine getting the mannequin done? So let's take the mannequin. We just need to. All we need to do is get a U-Haul trailer and we'll just put it in there, because I want to ride with you, I want to listen to the books with you.

Jana Shelfer: 7:48

Okay, we're not solving my problem. If we take time to go get a U-Haul trailer, we're not leaving, at least until Wednesday.

Jason Shelfer: 7:56

Oh yeah, we're leaving tomorrow.

Jana Shelfer: 7:59

Which defeats the purpose of this podcast. Yeah, Do you see? Okay, so I've been extremely real in the past three or four podcasts I really have. I've been really.

Jason Shelfer: 8:13

I feel like you've been extremely real in the last hundred podcasts.

Jana Shelfer: 8:17

Okay, well, thank you, but this time I don't have the answers, and this is something that I am struggling with and I it's almost like I zoom out and I see what I'm creating for myself. I see the chaos that I'm creating and yet, because I'm in it, it feels chaotic and real. It feels real. It also feels that, if I you know, a lot of times we say you create your reality.

Jason Shelfer: 8:46

So zoom out, Jana, change your feeling, change your energy, change your thoughts, change your actions no-transcript, but you do feel the feeling, and so one of the things that I would say is why don't we experiment with this trip and take less and use our creativity to fill those spaces when we need Jason time and Janet time? Because there's one thing I know we are probably some of the most creative people on the planet.

Jana Shelfer: 9:25

I know. But here's the thing is I have dreams and I have goals, and I also know that we're not going to have access to a lake. So my water skiing is going to be put on the back burner If I don't have some sort of outlet to pursue. Because that's really what my soul wants to do it wants to pursue, pursue and push my potential. All the P words.

Jason Shelfer: 9:52

I want some of those P words too.

Jana Shelfer: 9:54

I'm not going to say I'm on the podcast.

Jason Shelfer: 9:56

Podcast oh dear Personality, if you could see his eyes, you would know that he's being snarky.

Jana Shelfer: 10:05

He's totally being snarky right now and not totally podcast appropriate and a little smarmy, smarmy.

Jason Shelfer: 10:11

Snarky and smarmy. You're going with the S words. I'm looking for P words. Oh dear.

Jana Shelfer: 10:16

Okay, well, let's go back to the P word that this is all about. Packing, packing. It's about packing and prioritizing, and prioritizing. And I do know that we were supposed to leave today until Jason found out his Amazon package wasn't going to arrive until tonight. And then he's like, oh, we can leave tomorrow, we can leave tomorrow, otherwise we would have been, it would have been really frenetic today.

Jason Shelfer: 10:39

Well, yeah, it would have been because we would have had to pack, get on the road and I like I don't like dilly dallying at all, I'm like as soon as the car's packed, we're getting in it no, he sometimes starts the car and then our dog goes out and sits in the car because she's ready too.

Jana Shelfer: 10:55

I don't want to I don't want to be left behind. Maybe it's that and I'm like wait guys, I still haven't showered, like I'm not out of bed yet why did you? It's not Christmas morning, you didn't have to get up so early, and then they're like shower on the way, so then I end up doing like one of those. Oh yeah, underneath the armpits.

Jason Shelfer: 11:13

Pits, tits and armpits.

Jana Shelfer: 11:14

Right what's?

Jason Shelfer: 11:18

wrong with me?

Jana Shelfer: 11:18

And then I show up at Thanksgiving looking like hey Look.

Jason Shelfer: 11:22

who Thanksgiving looking like hey look who I just picked up at the bus stop.

Jana Shelfer: 11:24

And then they wonder why I'm not in the best mood.

Jason Shelfer: 11:27

I'm an ass. Now I can see it. Just like you were saying earlier, it's hard to see it when you're in it. And that's me, that's me forcing and pushing and and and creating um our reality.

Jana Shelfer: 11:41

And you, so you even create more tension for me.

Jason Shelfer: 11:46

I'm sorry, however, no, no, no, no, I'm never going to Thanksgiving or holidays again. That's not the point, is it?

Jana Shelfer: 11:52

It's like we both are and we're on the same team. We're on the same team and we're both trying to help the other person, like, literally, he's trying to help me by speeding me up, I'm trying to help him by speeding me up. I'm trying to help him by saying wait a minute, we have details and specifics that we haven't taken care of yet we have bills that we haven't paid. We've got house that needs to be cleaned. We can't just leave dirty toilets for five weeks, oh too far.

Jason Shelfer: 12:21

Too far.

Jana Shelfer: 12:23

Anyway, if it's brown, let it drown, stop, oh my gosh. See, that's why people tune out, anyway. So we're back Packing Packing Less is more and to have the confidence, really confidence in yourself that if you do come across a what if, along the way, we're going to have the resources to figure it out.

Jason Shelfer: 12:51

And I think we're going to experiment this time. We're going to pick a couple art things, because I know art's important and I love watching you do art Like that's a piece of time for me watching you do art. So we're going to pick a couple of those pieces and then we're going to prioritize the clothing, because I'm probably worse than you are at packing clothes that I never use.

Jana Shelfer: 13:10

Yeah, and also we're going to prioritize and organize where things are in the car, because it does not make sense to put our toothbrush in the overhead bin.

Jason Shelfer: 13:23

It takes a key and an extra lock.

Jana Shelfer: 13:25

Yes, we literally have this big extra it's a storage bin on top of the bin on top of our car and and I'm like, oh great, my toothpaste is up there.

Jason Shelfer: 13:37

That's right and we just stopped and had an onion burger jason's like figure it out, just gargle. Make it work, tim Gunn, he turns into Tim Gunn.

Jana Shelfer: 13:50

I'm like I don't have clean underpants.

Jason Shelfer: 13:53

Make it work. Throw them out the window, hang them out the window, let them air out.

Jana Shelfer: 13:57

Oh my gosh, We've revealed way too much about ourselves. Anyway, if this, if anyone can relate, yeah.

Jason Shelfer: 14:04

And if you see us going down the highway I-75, i-10,. I-20, I-40, and you see Jana hanging her underwear out the window. Give us a honk, give us a wave and a smile and a wink, because we want to know that you're Living Lucky®, right next to us.

Jana Shelfer: 14:19

I love you guys. Thank you for joining us. Happy holidays, bye-bye. Happy holidays. Thank you for joining us. Happy holidays, yes. Bye-bye, see you in a couple days. If the idea of Living Lucky® appeals to you, visit us at www. LivingLucky. com.