Living Lucky® Podcast with Jason and Jana Banana

The Trust

• Jana and Jason Shelfer • Season 6 • Episode 18

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Tired of the same old "win or lose" mentality? Craving a deeper understanding of trust, competition, and the surprising power of quitting? Buckle up, because Jason and Jana are taking you on an exploration of Netflix's series "The Trust"!

This episode is your passport to:

  • Dissecting the delicate dance between alliance and rivalry: Witness the true cost of competition and discover how collaboration can unlock hidden potential.
  • Examining the impact of money beliefs: Unearth your own subconscious money stories and see how they shape your decisions, both on and off the screen.
  • Learning from the unexpected power of quitting: Discover why sometimes, stepping away can be the bravest move you make, paving the way for growth and self-discovery.
  • Unveiling the secrets of personal integrity: Witness how authenticity breeds trust and paves the way for genuine connection.

Go beyond the surface, using "The Trust" as a powerful lens to:

  • Challenge the "participation trophy" culture: Explore the evolving attitudes towards winning and question if we've lost the thrill of victory in the pursuit of inclusivity.
  • Reflect on your own values: Delve into personal anecdotes that illuminate the courage it takes to walk away from situations that don't align with your core beliefs.
  • Embrace the power of vulnerability: Witness how insecurities and hidden agendas can cloud judgment, even in high-pressure situations.
  • Redefine success: Learn that sometimes, the true win lies in staying true to yourself and building genuine connections with others.

This episode is an invitation to self-discovery. By examining the human behavior within "The Trust," Jason and Jana encourage you to:

  • Question the rules of the game: Recognize that competition isn't always about winning at all costs, but about the choices you make and the lessons you learn along the way.
  • Growth over outcome: Understand that the most profound journeys often begin with unexpected detours and uncomfortable truths.
  •  The "stretch zone": Step outside your comfort zone and chase a life filled with luck and growth, where quitting can be the catalyst for incredible transformation.

The real game of life isn't about winning or losing, but about playing with authenticity and learning

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*Previously Recorded

Speaker 1:

Are you ready to create a life you crave? Let's spin that doom loop of negativity into an upward success cycle and start living lucky.

Speaker 2:

Good morning. I'm.

Speaker 1:

Jana. I'm Jason and we are living lucky. You are too, because today we're talking about the trust. It's actually a show on Netflix.

Speaker 2:

It's like one of those reality game shows.

Speaker 1:

Yes, and I hate to even admit that I watched this, but I did because it's a sociology experiment in real time and I found it so interesting because there's a trust, a trust of money $250,000. And then a group of strangers come together. 11 people. And literally it is almost like Lord of the Flies, because they get to pick who divides the trust and if nobody votes, then they all divide the trust of money equally.

Speaker 2:

So the more that they can vote people off and say I don't trust you, I don't want you here, then their percentage goes up.

Speaker 1:

So it's kind of like Survivor, where literally they're voting each other out or they can choose to be a team and everyone wins, everybody wins. And the reason that I find this so fascinating is because I've really been studying. There's a whole generation of kids where there's this mindset. It's almost like the pendulum swings over time. When I grew up, there was a winner and a loser. Do you know what I'm saying? Oh yeah, I grew up.

Speaker 1:

And only the winning team won a trophy or an award. The person who wins gets the recognition. And then, as I've gotten older, it feels like my nieces and nephews whenever they are involved in any activity everybody wins, everybody gets a participation medal. In fact, a lot of times with T-Ball they say well, you know what? We don't keep score because we don't want to hurt anybody's feelings, so everybody wins. And they're really trying to, I guess. I mean, this is a whole topic in itself.

Speaker 2:

It also teaches kids how, whatever they do, they can't lose. It doesn't teach them to deal with that feeling of crap. I want to win.

Speaker 1:

And their whole reasoning behind it is well, we're focusing on team building and we're focusing on just having fun and we're focusing on just enjoying the activity. You know, we want to take the competition out of it. So this show that Jason and I watched is called the Trust, and basically it is like survivor without nature. It is all built around a pot of money and it really shows how, you know, everyone might say, well, yeah, let's have a team mindset, everybody wins, let's all split the money. However, when they get behind that voting booth where nobody can see what they actually put down, then greed starts to get the best of them and they say you know what I want.

Speaker 2:

So and so out, and also not only the greed, but to me more impactful was all the insecurities and the fake beliefs that they come in with about this person has more than I do already. They don't deserve. They don't deserve anything, or as much as I get, I deserve more because I come from further back.

Speaker 1:

You're right, Jason. You really saw people's beliefs in money, which we could do a whole series of podcasts on money beliefs, and many people will say you know, I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm going to be able to do that. I don't have any baggage around money.

Speaker 2:

Or status or anything whatever. I think, everybody does At some level in some area, and what the thing is is you don't see your blind spots. No one sees their own blind spots until someone else points them out, and I mean they get hit in the head by a 2x4.

Speaker 1:

In fact, I did this class where they said write down all your beliefs about money. So what's a belief you have about money?

Speaker 2:

I believe that there's so much money out there and available that I just have to provide value to get it.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so you have to provide value in order to get money. That's the belief I heard.

Speaker 2:

People can give it to me because I feel like I live my life in a value-added way. I'm getting always. I remember years ago where I was like I have to work my ass off so I can prove that I'm worthy and I can go buy something that shows everybody that I'm worthy.

Speaker 1:

So some of the beliefs in this class that I was taking people were writing down. Money is evil Evil, that's a very common one that you get. Or I don't deserve money when money doesn't come to people like me, or you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Nobody in my family was rich. I'll never be rich.

Speaker 1:

This podcast is taking a little turn to the right, so we're not prepared for all of the money beliefs. But in this class they had us write down all of our beliefs about money and then they had us change the word money to brooms. That's cool and when you said the sentence like so Jason said I have to work hard in order to get brooms. Get brooms Now, when you think about that, Sounds stupid.

Speaker 2:

I could just go get a broom anywhere.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

I can even borrow brooms from the neighbors.

Speaker 1:

There you go. You could borrow brooms. You could work smarter to get brooms. You could provide value to get brooms. Actually, I think that's what you said I have to provide.

Speaker 2:

I could trade something for a broom.

Speaker 1:

Yes. And when you say brooms are the root of all evil, I'll never have enough brooms. Brooms only come to people. Brooms don't come to people like me.

Speaker 2:

Only other people. Brooms don't grow on trees.

Speaker 1:

They kind of do. When you change it to brooms, it really changes our outlook right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so back to the circle of trust. We're watching this show and it is crazy how, when people get behind the voting booth, all of a sudden their inner beliefs about and their greed.

Speaker 2:

It's their greed. Yes, for me, what I think of is if I was taken to this beautiful, amazing place in South Africa or wherever it was in Africa, with some of the poorest people on earth, and then Richard Branson, like some of the richest people on earth and I'm kind of in the middle, but I'm comfortable I'm thinking, wow, I just got a full on paid vacation to this beautiful place with experiences, and I get to meet these new people and I'm going to get 10,000 or whatever, almost $20,000 at the end of it $20,000.

Speaker 1:

By not voting anyone out, by just not voting, everyone gets a paid vacation Everyone gets $20,000. However, when people get behind that voting booth all of a sudden, they're like, well, if I vote so and so out then the pot.

Speaker 2:

Then I get $23,000.

Speaker 1:

People be divided by less people, and if I can keep voting people out, then I get more money.

Speaker 2:

The other very interesting thing to me was is when they got into the secret area that they had an option to steal from the pot.

Speaker 1:

And most of them took that, some of them didn't, but here's the thing.

Speaker 2:

There were some that said I'm here for teamwork the whole time and they stuck to their values and their morals.

Speaker 1:

And then there are other people and maybe we're talking about integrity as well.

Speaker 2:

So the other people didn't see anything wrong with taking from the pot that was supposed to be split among everyone. That is true, because they felt like they deserved it because of the hardships they had been through or where they were coming from, because they've had a harder life, and the other people didn't deserve it and they didn't think the other people would ever find out.

Speaker 1:

That, and that's key is when people think you know what. I can say one thing out in public and then do something different behind the scenes and nobody will ever know. However, I think God always knows.

Speaker 2:

God always knows, God always knows and you know what the truth always comes out.

Speaker 1:

The truth always comes out and the truth will set you free. Because here's what those people didn't realize is that when they were one way in front of everyone and then another way behind the voting booth, then they had to carry guilt and their energy changed. And watching it from the outside, I'm like you can totally tell.

Speaker 2:

You're keeping your life, you're trying to keep all these lies together because you know in your soul what you did.

Speaker 1:

And it started to weigh on them. This really started to weigh on them, However, this one guy who was a cowboy his name was Brian he was so true to what he said and how he acted. Those two things were congruent at all times for him. He would say one thing and he would act in that exact manner, and he was completely transparent about it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Even when he voted for someone and he actually had to take money out of the trust which is crazy because you could see him wrestling with this and he had to take $30,000 out of the trust. It was supposed to be traded with, shared with everyone, but the whole part about him about it coming out was it's coming out. There is a big risk involved in this. Are you willing to take the risk, or do you want to pass this risk off to the other people in the house and as they have to experience it one at a time? So someone else is going to have. I love the way he stayed in his integrity the whole time.

Speaker 1:

He stayed in his integrity and what I noticed is that when he did that, he was able to be happy and he was laughing and because he was true to himself, he never once had to carry that he came right out of there and told everyone hey, this is what happened.

Speaker 2:

It came with a big risk and I didn't feel like it was. If it was going to come out anyway, I didn't feel like putting you through all the risk, all the five, 10 people, how many people were left through that risk of you may have to do something else. So I just said I will accept the risk and stay true.

Speaker 1:

It's just, it's a really interesting social experiment because it felt to me like people who grew up being treated well and who had a mindset where they could spend positive and see the best in others, see the best in themselves, see the best in their circumstances. They tended to choose to see the best in others and to trust. That came down to trusting.

Speaker 2:

They tended to choose collaboration over competition.

Speaker 1:

And then it felt like some people who grew up and felt like victims in their life and saw the worst in their circumstances, saw the worst in the people around them, saw the worst in themselves, no, one will ever love me. They tended to see that in other people.

Speaker 2:

And that accordingly. Yes yes, I love, I love watching these.

Speaker 1:

I want to call it nasty real, real television like. But if you if you watch it with an eye of. What can I learn from?

Speaker 2:

this it can be very educational in how we act as humans especially if it's not heavily produced.

Speaker 1:

Right, yeah, which we never really know, right, you don't?

Speaker 2:

know, but I could see people. I mean they were explaining their actions all the time and what they're behind it really wrestling with.

Speaker 1:

Do I go with this team mentality or do I go for? What will be to me what will benefit me? And you really hear their, their limiting beliefs come out like you know what these offers don't happen To people like me and it doesn't allow them to enjoy the experience of the present, which is crazy.

Speaker 2:

How all these different thoughts and greed will steal your present from you, your presence like oh my god.

Speaker 1:

I I really suggest watching it and email us. Let us know what you think, let us know if you see all these different lessons and all these different, how do you think you would act in that? Oh Okay, real quickly, how would you act?

Speaker 2:

It's, it's hard to tell, I mean until you are presented.

Speaker 1:

I would like to think that I would be a cowboy, brian.

Speaker 2:

I, I feel like I would be a cowboy. Brian, I don't know, I don't have the habit of reading my Bible every day like he did, but I do believe deeply and I also think about how I want to be and spiritually, and Just how I want to show up in life. So I do feel like I would. I would tend to always lean towards integrity is I also know that I get angry sometimes integrity is in our react doing behind closed doors what you do in public.

Speaker 1:

Yeah that is integrity. I feel like people with more integrity, you automatically trust them.

Speaker 2:

I feel like I've been in situations before where Integrity was in question and I literally quit my job, like I quit a job one time because I was like, if you think my integrity is in question, then we're gonna look at each other differently, because I'm not that guy. And if I haven't shown you that already, then this is what it is. And they found out later that it was totally someone else.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm that had done what happened, because I don't want to throw anybody on the bus or the company under the bus. I never got, I never. I wasn't allowed to quit, which is kind of weird.

Speaker 1:

That's what that's.

Speaker 2:

You're not allowed to quit and I and I believed them right like, oh my god, okay, I translated that into you're too valuable to quit, right. But what they were saying is You're not allowed, we don't want you to quit over this. But I was young and I was like I'm not allowed to quit, okay, it was crazy.

Speaker 1:

I did the circle of trust.

Speaker 2:

You're like okay if you say so it was just looking back on, thinking back on it. Now I'm like that's crazy that someone said you're not allowed to quit and I was like okay, I'll see you tomorrow. That's nuts. You can quit anything. I don't recommend it unless it doesn't work in your values and social system, or? Thank you for the Laughs?

Speaker 1:

yes, thank you for the laugh and again, I know that we were a little bit all over the place, but this social experiment was really impactful for both of us and we just saw so many different lessons, so many different idiosyncrasies of the human nature, nature, and we also saw limiting beliefs come out and it just was really really.

Speaker 2:

Educational human nature when you allow yourself to to soak in and rest and become negative.

Speaker 1:

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