Upgrading Systems & Equipment

Transforming Frustration into Adventure!
Are you Growing, or falling behind? Unleash Your Growth Mindset and start Living Lucky® This episode of the Living Lucky® Podcast with Jason & Jana Banana is your launchpad to a future brimming with possibility!

Join Jana and Jason on a nostalgic journey back to the pre-smartphone era. Reminisce about the quirks of landlines and the satisfaction of dialing a number from memory. But this trip down memory lane isn't just about sentimental indulgence.It serves as a springboard for a powerful conversation about embracing change and adopting a growth mindset.

Key Takeaways to Transform Your Life:

• Break free from the comfort trap! Resistance to change is natural, but it can also hold you back. Learn how to identify areas where you might have a fixed mindset and discover the power of Carol Dweck's groundbreaking work and her book, Mindset to propel you forward.
• Modern marvels, modern challenges. We're all connected, but are we truly connected? Explore the irony of our dependence on devices and the importance of maintaining a positive mindset even when the tech world throws curveballs your way (think data transfers gone wrong!).
• Embrace the "stretch zone." Learning new tech can feel like breaking in a stiff glove – uncomfortable at first, but increasingly familiar and rewarding. Embrace the growing pains as stepping stones to a more fulfilling digital life.
• Learn from the younger generation. Witness the infectious enthusiasm that youngsters bring to exploring technology. Let their curiosity inspire you to find joy in the learning process, no matter your age.
• Be patient, grasshopper! There will be bumps along the road. From setting up new phones to managing smart home devices, mistakes are inevitable. Embrace them as opportunities to learn and grow.

This episode is a treasure trove of practical wisdom and inspirational stories. It will leave you equipped with a growth mindset and a newfound sense of curiosity to tackle the ever-evolving digital landscape.

Are you ready to shed your technological inhibitions and start Living Lucky®? Tune in and join Jason & Jana Banana on this empowering adventure!

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Transcript

Jana Shelfer: 0:00

Are you ready to create a life you crave? Let's spin that doom loop of negativity into an upward success cycle and start Living Lucky®. Good morning, I'm Jana Shelfer and this is my husband, Jason Shelfer, and we are Living Lucky®. You are too.

Jason Shelfer: 0:21

We got new phones. Start spreading the word.

Jana Shelfer: 0:27

Now I've literally needed a new phone for probably two years at least. I'm like so far back In fact. Our friend came over and she was like oh yeah, you're the camera right now. You can do this little setting. Yeah, you set it on cinema. Yeah, set it on cinema setting and your pictures will just look professional. And I was like what are you even talking about? Because I don't think I have that. And so I pulled out my phone. She says oh my God, jana, what model do you have?

Jason Shelfer: 1:00

And why do I have to flip it open? Stop.

Jana Shelfer: 1:05

So my phone is really outdated? Okay, I will just tell you that my phone is so outdated. Jason has a couple models ahead of me. However, yours is outdated too.

Jason Shelfer: 1:16

And mine was outdated too, I think I and I didn't even realize how many models ahead we were, because it was working, it was useful.

Jana Shelfer: 1:25

And if we don't adapt, guess what happens.

Jason Shelfer: 1:28

We just fall behind.

Jana Shelfer: 1:29

No, we become the dinosaurs and you know their outcome. That's what happens when you don't adapt. The world is changing constantly, so if you don't, change with it we get left behind.

Jason Shelfer: 1:44

That's one of the beautiful things when they talk about you're either growing or you're dying, right?

Jana Shelfer: 1:49

Yes.

Jason Shelfer: 1:50

And it's not necessarily that keeping up with the Joneses or anything like that, but incremental improvement every day is something important and intentional.

Jana Shelfer: 2:01

Because I'm going to tell you something. When Jason brought up just an idea, it was an idea fart, Maybe we should go get new phones. I went no, I don't want a new phone. I don't want a new phone. I don't want a new car. You know why? Because it takes too long. I don't want a new computer. It takes too long for me to get it to where I like it.

Jason Shelfer: 2:25

To learn it, adapt it, get comfortable with it.

Jana Shelfer: 2:27

Because there's always new buttons. Then they want all your passwords and then you know the settings. I got it now to where it works for me. I know where everything is.

Jason Shelfer: 2:38

It's like a glove.

Jana Shelfer: 2:41

It's easy.

Jason Shelfer: 2:42

An old worn out glove, yeah, and it suits the purposes. And the thing is, there's so many more things it can do. There's so much more capability just like people, right.

Jana Shelfer: 2:53

But that takes time and energy to figure all of that out and there is a learning curve.

Jason Shelfer: 2:59

And I just got goosebumps because, just like people, we have so much capacity and capability and if we continue to just have that incremental improvement every day, we increase both.

Jana Shelfer: 3:15

Oh my gosh, you just gave me an aha moment because I really feel when we started accelerating our life in all directions was when we read the book Fixed Mindset Versus Growth Mindset by Carol Dwecky, something like that. I know she went to the University of Illinois.

Jason Shelfer: 3:35

I don't know if I pronounced it correctly, but I feel like that was it.

Jana Shelfer: 3:37

And that book in particular. The first half of that book she talks about a growth mindset and that really is when it all clicked for me, like oh my gosh. There's some areas in my life where I have developed a fixed mindset, because I think that I'm already the expert, and sometimes we don't even recognize it.

Jason Shelfer: 4:02

And even if we don't, even if we don't think we're the expert, we just don't look there because we're Because we don't think we're capable, or we don't think that's our strength, or we don't think that we have talent in that area. It's just a closed door.

Jana Shelfer: 4:15

Yes and we close the door. It's like me walking. I had closed that door, a fixed mindset. In fact, I've even made it part of my identity. You know what? I've been in this chair for 34 years. I am the expert on the planet when it comes to how to be a paraplegic, how to overcome obstacles.

Jason Shelfer: 4:35

And the beautiful thing about that is that it opened so many other doors for. But there's no need to have that door completely shut. If there's something in your soul pulling you to it, yes.

Jana Shelfer: 4:48

And so if you're wondering what we're even talking about, listen to the last episode about Scuba Jim and me walking again, because that's been a huge turning point in Jason and my life. Yeah, but back to the phones. Back to the phones. So Jason says I'm going to the store, I'm getting us new phones. I was like, okay, good luck with that I'm staying home and working on crafts you do, you boo right here's my phone, just take it, he's like I may be gone for a while. Are you gonna be okay?

Jason Shelfer: 5:22

you're gonna be okay without your phone for several hours.

Jana Shelfer: 5:25

I've got lots to do here.

Jason Shelfer: 5:26

And there's a question in itself, because who's going to be okay without their phone for several hours? Because I don't think a lot of people think about that. And even when I got there and they were like there were several questions and I was like let me just call her.

Jana Shelfer: 5:41

And you're like, wait, I can't. And I was like, oh wait.

Jason Shelfer: 5:43

I've got her phone and if she's not literally sitting next to her computer, she can't answer on her computer. I can't text her on her computer. So there was a lot of recognition in me while I was with someone at the Apple store saying, okay, well, I've lost connection. If I'm not connected to my phone and she's not connected to her phone, how do I get information back and forth between my wife and myself?

Jana Shelfer: 6:11

That is so interesting. I mean, this is taking it in another direction our whole conversation. But we have become, we think that we're more connected, but in so many ways we have lost the ability to be disconnected, which makes us dependent. It's not connected, we're dependent.

Jason Shelfer: 6:37

We're dependent. I remember when I was in my youth. I could probably rattle off 20, 30 phone numbers of all my friends. Oh, I know, I didn't carry around a little notepad with passwords and phone numbers to try to remember all my like, who I wanted to go bike riding with, who I wanted to go out with, like all these things. It was just dial it.

Jason Shelfer: 7:02

Go to the kitchen, lift the phone off the receiver and start dialing. That's so true. I could too, and right now I remember your phone number I remember, I remember my phone number from when I was a kid.

Jana Shelfer: 7:13

I was just that's what's going on in my head?

Jason Shelfer: 7:16

I'm like do I remember my home address when I was a kid?

Jana Shelfer: 7:18

wait, you remember the phone number? Do you remember the area code?

Jason Shelfer: 7:22

yeah, okay yeah, well, because where I grew up we changed to 10 digits.

Jana Shelfer: 7:27

When I was like nine, mine was 9135275795 well, now, everyone knows but it's no longer in service so gotta pay that bill I always found it interesting in movies where they would always in. They would always start with 555-1212.

Jason Shelfer: 7:45

God, how many people have that phone number?

Jana Shelfer: 7:48

And then the whole my Sharona. There was like 867-5309.

Jason Shelfer: 7:55

How many?

Jana Shelfer: 7:55

times did we dial that number? Okay, so back to phones and adapting. I will say that Jason was gone for many hours, probably four hours. So there was a process.

Jason Shelfer: 8:09

There was a data transfer purchasing.

Jana Shelfer: 8:13

Making sure your apps show up. Amex doesn't like it when you do.

Jason Shelfer: 8:17

We had to do both phones on separate invoices because of something with the way Apple does things. Oh my gosh, Because they were both on the same account with our phone provider. So the way Apple does things, oh my gosh, because they were both on the same account with our phone provider. So the way Apple did it. And Amex saw two identical charges and they declined the second one. So that was a whole issue.

Jason Shelfer: 8:37

Oh my gosh, wow, I'll be having that discussion with them, because they weren't available to help, and usually they're great about that, oh no, so there were a lot of things, but the other thing is there's a lot of logistics, a lot of things that would have bothered me before. It was everything was good.

Jana Shelfer: 8:56

You're like, I'm staying home, you know what.

Jason Shelfer: 8:57

It was, just a. It was a. Hey, there's a reason. All this is happening, right, and what is great about this? What's great about this?

Jana Shelfer: 9:05

That's how you and it was amazing. Instead of using the F word, we say it's fascinating.

Jason Shelfer: 9:12

My mentality through the whole thing. I mean, if you've ever been to the Apple store at the Mall of Millennia in Orlando, there's something about that store that draws people in. People are in line all the way down the mall yeah, and they're right now doing this apple vision, the goggles, which are incredible I didn't.

Jana Shelfer: 9:35

I feel like I need that. I didn't even know what they are.

Jason Shelfer: 9:37

I saw somebody had them at this group that I was in and I was like, wow, that's pretty, that's pretty crazy and incredible. Um, and we, we should try them out, uh, maybe for an episode on a TV show. So it'll be a um, we, we will try them out for an episode, cause, I think, if we can figure out how to transfer it to television, but there were so many people trying those out and the lines were incredible. Typically, that would used to frustrate me, I know, right, like traffic on I-4, but I was peaceful, calm, all these things that just were amazing because of it and that probably helped your whole overall experience.

Jana Shelfer: 10:21

Because the minute we buy into the frustration, the worry, the overwhelm, the chaos of it all, the oh my gosh, there's way too many people in here the minute we buy into those thoughts and feelings, guess what we experience even more of.

Jason Shelfer: 10:38

Yeah, we start telling that story and we create that narrative, we create more of that narrative, and everything was about you know what? There's a reason for this. It's a beautiful experience and I love it, I love, I loved. I was literally loving every part about it.

Jana Shelfer: 10:55

I'm so proud of you.

Jason Shelfer: 10:56

And it didn't matter what was happening, because I was there for a purpose.

Jana Shelfer: 11:00

I love the part that I got to stay home and not deal with it.

Jason Shelfer: 11:04

And I was like and Jana has time to do the things that she needs to do Cause you, you had editing to do, you had dresses to make. I was working on our dance recital. Anyway. So let's stay on topic.

Jana Shelfer: 11:17

Yeah, but, but that is so he comes home then and he has these two new phones and I know that anyone listening to this can relate to this, because now we have a learning curve of new technology. There's a learning curve of even getting the settings right so that the font is the right size and the brightness is correct, and then the passwords I mean we have every light in the house is hooked to our phones, which was another thing.

Jana Shelfer: 11:50

When you were gone I couldn't turn the lights on. We have our, our temperature. You know we have a lot of house settings that are set to our phone. We have a lot of passwords. Like you said, I was trying to trade stocks and a lot of my. You know I would try to get on.

Jason Shelfer: 12:11

Your trading platforms are on the mobile app.

Jana Shelfer: 12:13

Wait, we don't recognize this device. We're going to send a code to your phone. I'm like that's not going to do us any good.

Jason Shelfer: 12:21

Yeah.

Jana Shelfer: 12:22

So there was just a lot of adapting.

Jason Shelfer: 12:27

And I'm sure there are a lot of people so I think of our nephews that tell themselves the story, that this is a fun experience, learning about technology.

Jana Shelfer: 12:39

In fact, they get off on it because that's their identity.

Jason Shelfer: 12:42

That's their gig, that's their jam.

Jana Shelfer: 12:44

Anyone who was?

Jason Shelfer: 12:45

10. Let's explore this.

Jana Shelfer: 12:47

Let's break this computer down. This is my expertise. This is where I shine. I'll show you how this works.

Jason Shelfer: 12:52

And it's the story that they're telling themselves, because that's the discomfort they lean into.

Jana Shelfer: 12:58

And it's exploration. However, you tell those same people you know what. Why don't you sit down and have a conversation with someone in person? They're like no can't do it, I'll text them. Why don't?

Jason Shelfer: 13:09

you try to figure out somebody. Yeah, why don't you?

Jana Shelfer: 13:12

ask a girl on a date? No, not doing that.

Jason Shelfer: 13:15

Ask her to prom. No, no, we'll go in a group. How about I text my friend to text her?

Jana Shelfer: 13:21

Yeah, so that's the story they're telling themselves.

Jason Shelfer: 13:29

So, yeah, that's the story they're telling themselves, that's their dark room, yes, and our and so a lot of us have the dark room or that closed mindset about technology. So where is that? And where is that that growth, that incremental discomfort that we can just step into a little bit day after day so we can continue to just have that growth and improvement.

Jana Shelfer: 13:46

I think it comes down to maybe early on, when technology was moving so quickly. We at some point got frustrated because we were kind of the guinea pigs on how all of this is developing and sometimes we heard our parents say you know what the typewriter was better? You know, I just liked it when I had a phone that was connected to the wall so that I could hear clearly. And now we've got these damn cell phones and these damn towers that are out here and they're just they're cluttering up God's nature.

Jason Shelfer: 14:23

This fax machine will never be around for long. No sense in getting it or learning it.

Jana Shelfer: 14:28

Where's the white out? Why can't I just white this out?

Jana Shelfer: 14:33

And so that passed on and all of a sudden, our generation was like you know what, mom, dad, we can help you, we can help. So we were helping them with VCRs and DVDs. Oh my God, when DVDs came in, they were like what do you mean? There's no commercials. This is too good to be true.

Jason Shelfer: 14:50

I'm skeptical of this. How am I going to know what's on sale? I won't know until Sunday when the paper comes.

Jana Shelfer: 14:55

You mean? I can watch Dallas at any time, any day of the week.

Jason Shelfer: 15:00

No commercials.

Jana Shelfer: 15:01

Right, and so you know what? Just turn it to my game show. I'm better off with my game show network yeah so we heard that, that, almost that, complaining, and then we've adapted or adopted we have adopted some of those beliefs and we're just carrying them down, and it wasn't until the generation what do they call themselves? Generation X or millennials that came up and said you know what? I can figure this out for you. And that's how they got attention, Because all of a sudden they're like wow.

Jason Shelfer: 15:40

I knew how to reprogram that.

Jana Shelfer: 15:42

That was amazing, Trevor. Can you do that with grandma's computer?

Jason Shelfer: 15:47

and dad's computer, yeah, when you're six and seven years old and you're reprogramming things. And now, all of a sudden, he has an identity.

Jana Shelfer: 15:52

You're taking code in school Of being a smart genius good with technology.

Jason Shelfer: 16:00

Appreciated, loved.

Jana Shelfer: 16:02

I mean, he's getting everything there, so there is something there.

Jason Shelfer: 16:07

What you appreciate, appreciates.

Jana Shelfer: 16:10

Oh my gosh, I mean, these are all basic things, but anyway. So back to the phone. We are adapting, and in that adapting you are outside your comfort zone, or what we like to call the stretch zone, and in that stretch zone there is some growing pains. Am I correct?

Jason Shelfer: 16:32

Yeah, but, just like we talked about at the very beginning, the more you play with it, the more you're in it, just like a glove.

Jana Shelfer: 16:41

it gets comfortable the more you do it, and that's the secret is in a growth mindset is to make the uncomfortable comfortable, to make the abnormal normal.

Jason Shelfer: 16:54

This can be your new normal. Just tell yourself the story, that it's enjoyable, that it's fun, that it is exploration and it's there's not pain. It's different, it's different and it's different. And what if? Go back to the what, if and if something goes wrong. So what.

Jana Shelfer: 17:15

And you can always lean on. I am, I am Going to figure this out and I'm learning, I'm learning.

Jason Shelfer: 17:22

If you're learning, understanding that you don't know at all. The more we figure out, the more we know, the more we know that we don't know. I mean, it's just incredible and it's beautiful because it allows more space for exploration and more space to just enjoy life and be curious. So for the next week or so, if you don't hear from me, yes, and be curious.

Jana Shelfer: 17:43

So for the next week or so, if you don't hear from me. If you see thumbnails with no pictures, that's because I haven't figured out how to use the camera.

Jason Shelfer: 17:55

Yet we're trying to just figure it out. We're leaning in, but we are still Living Lucky®, and you are too so thanks so much for being with us.

Jana Shelfer: 18:01

Give us a little grace Love you guys. Bye-bye. Give us a little grace. Love you guys, bye-bye. If the idea of Living Lucky® appeals to you, visit us at www. livinglucky. com.